Janet Mock: I was born a baby, not a boy
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Janet Mock: I was born a baby, not a boy


>>LET ME ASK YOU THE QUESTION. THE QUESTION IS, HERE’S WHERE I WANT TO LEARN. BECAUSE I DON’T WANT THIS TO BE AN ONGOING ISSUE THAT I HAVE WITH THE COMMUNITY IN WHICH YOU ARE SUCH A GREAT SPOKESMAN AND ADVOCATE. I WANT TO LEARN WHY IT IS SO OFFENSIVE TO ACTUALLY JUST SAY THAT YOU GREW UP AS A BOY AND YOU THEN — BECAUSE YOU’VE ALWAYS FELT THAT YOU WERE FEMALE YOU HAD SURGERY TO BECOME A WOMAN, TO BECOME A REAL WOMAN AS YOU SAY IN THE BOOK. WHY IS IT OFFENSIVE?>>I THINK THAT WE NEED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT GENDER IS. AND GENDER EXPECTATIONS IN OUR CULTURE. I THINK THAT WE ARE BORN AND WE ARE ASSIGNED A SEX AT BIRTH. THAT IS A MATTER NONE OF US HAVE CONTROL OVER. BUT WE DO HAVE CONTROL OVER OUR DEFEN DEFENDANT IS IN AND /* /* DESTINIES AND IDENTITIES. WE SHOULD BE RESPECTED. IT’S NOT ABOUT WHAT SURGERIES I MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE HAD, NOT ABOUT HOW I DISCLOSE MY GENDER TO PEOPLE. IT’S ABOUT WHO I AM RIGHT NOW. I’M JANET MOCK, AUTHOR OF “REDEFINING REALNESS” A FIERCE TRANSADVOCATE. THAT’S WHAT I WAS ON THIS SHOW TO DO. IF I SPOKE OUT EVERY SINGLE TIME THAT SOMEONE SAID CALLED ME OUT OF MY NAME OR LABELLED ME AS SOMETHING THAT I’M NOT I WOULD NOT HAVE TIME TO ADVOCATE FOR THE FIERCE AND URGENT ISSUES IN MY COMMUNITY. ISSUES OF POVERTY AND JOBLESSNESS, OF A LACK OF HEALTH CARE, OF VIOLENCE, VERBAL AND PHYSICAL VIOLENCE AGAINST TRANSWOMEN. >>HOW DOES IT HELP YOU, JANET, THAT SOMEBODY LIKE ME WHO HAS BEEN SUCH AN OPEN SUPPORTER OF THE COMMUNITY THAT YOU REPRESENT SO WELL AND SO PUBLICLY, THAT YOU TARGET ME FOR WHAT YOU KNEW WOULD BE A LOAD OF ABUSE THAT THEN FOLLOWED? YOU DID. THE TWEETS LAST NIGHT IGNITE ADD FA FIRESTORM OF ABUSE AND VILLE FICCATION MY WAY. YOU SAID I HAD SENSATIONALIZED YOUR STORY. I WAS NOT FORMERLY A MAN OR A BOY. NOT A TWEET YOU SAID. >>I SENT THREE TWEETS. >>BUT JANET, THEY WERE IMPORTANT TWEETS TO ME. AND IMPORTANT TWEETS TO — >>I TWEETED THEM AT THE FRAMEWORK OF YOUR SHOW AND HOW THEY WERE PACKAGING THIS STORY THAT WE DID. OUR EXCHANGE WAS COMPLETELY FINE. BUT WHEN YOU PACKAGE SOMETHING WITH THE HEADLINE “UNTIL 18 WAS A BOY” AND ALSO SAY “FORMERLY A MAN” WHEN IN TALK ABOUT MY BELOVED, THE LOVE OF MY LIFE AND OUR INTERACTION TOGETHER, THAT IS FALSE ADVERTISING. AND THAT IS INFOTAINMENT. >>WHAT IS FALSE ABOUT — >>PEOPLE WHO WORKED AT PEOPLE MAGAZINE, I UNDERSTAND THAT SENSATIONALIZING OUR STORIES ENTICES PEOPLE TO LOOK IN. [ OVERLAPPING SPEAKERS ]>>JANET, WITH THE GREATEST OF RESPECT, AND I MEAN WITH THE GREATEST OF RESPECT, YOU’VE WRITTEN A BOOK “REDEFINING REALNESS, MY PATH TO WOMANHOOD.” MY PATH TO WOMANHOOD, IDENTITY, LOVE AND SO MUCH MORE. I’VE GOT THE MARIE CLAIRE ARTICLE THAT STARTED YOUR WHOLE MEDIA PROFILE. “I WAS BORN A BOY” REPEATEDLY IN YOUR WORDS SAYING — >>I DID NOT WRITE THAT PIECE. I’M A WRITER. WORDS ARE PRECIOUS. >>LET ME ASK YOU A SIMPLE QUESTION. >>I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU A QUESTION. >>OKAY. CAN I ASK MINE FIRST AND YOU CAN ASK YOURS. MY QUESTION IS SIMPLY THIS. DO YOU DISPUTE THAT YOU WERE BORN A BOY?>>DO I DISPUTE THAT I WAS BORN A BOY? I WAS BORN A BABY WHO WAS ASSIGNED MALE AT BIRTH. I DID NOT IDENTIFY OR LIVE MY LIFE AS A BOY. AS SOON AS I HAD ENOUGH AGENCY IN MY LIFE TO GROW UP I BECAME WHO I AM. AND THIS DID NOT START AT 18 WHEN I WENT TO THAILAND TO HAVE SURGERY. IT STARTED WHEN I WAS SIX YEARS OLD. AND MY PARENTS SAW ME FOR WHO I WAS AND ALLOWED ME TO LIVE MY LIFE. THAT’S A LOT OF NUANCE. AND IT’S HARD TO COMMUNICATE THAT IN 30 SECONDS OR EVEN 140-CHARACTER TWEET. THAT’S WHY I’M HERE RIGHT NOW. I WANT THIS TO BE A LEARNING AND TEACHING MOMENT FOR ALL OF US. THERE’S A LOT OF OF MISUNDERSTANDING. JUST AS YOU WERE VILLEFIED AS YOU SAY FROM MY SUPPORTERS, THAT’S MY COMMUNITY WHO ARE VILLEFIED EVERY VING EL DAY AND MISUNDERSTOOD AND DRIVEN INTO ISOLATION AND TOLD WHO THEY ARE IS INCORRECT AND WRONG AND SHOULD BE UNDER INVESTIGATION. MY QUESTION TO YOU WILL YOU PLEASE USE YOUR PLATFORM TO CONTINUE TO TELL OUR STORIES?>>YES. AS I ALWAYS HAVE DONE. >>YES. AND I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE COFFEE WITH YOU AND SIT DOWN AND HAVE A REAL C

100 Comments

  • DeeJCeeBeaches

    What is this world coming to? "I was born a baby" stop chatting shit. You were born a BABY BOY!! You have had a sex change and you look fabulous!!! But let's be clear you were born a boy. Biological females do not have to take hormones to look like women. Biological boys who want to be female DO!

  • gabyveron

    what the fuck is wrong with all you haters?? She got the damn surgery in her genitals and even if she didn't, is her fucking problem! She deserves respect like everyone else! Leave transgender people alone. You have no fucking idea of what they've been through to get where they are.

  • Haha Hehe

    she can t redefine science. self destructive to deny Truth. HE wanted to be a girl so did what HE needed- surgery- to undo that Now this "legally SHE" is still born – a boy! don't fight that. because YOU ARE KILLING YOURSELF and stealing your own happiness. eg if you're born black, then you got albino disease and become white, it's OK. not you fault. but don't deny you re born black because you still carry undeniable black genes and No White genes. STILL in your WHOLE dna you re is male even though you ve reconstructed the outside to be a lovely female. don't fight with Truth, just live. The truth will set you free to live.

  • MrCrimsoneyedprince

    to all these dumbasses in the comment section:

    she never denied she was born male, but that does not make her a boy, or a man. She is a woman. She never called herself a man, she was labeled that. We choose our gender, even if we don't choose our biological sex

  • Dawn Hillson

    There is nothing sadder than watching a man … particularly our black men sit there and try to become black women! Men are supposed to be leaders, defenders and protectors…. not women who wear make-up, wigs and ladies clothing. I think a lot of " transgenders" have experienced some form of sexual abuse and trying to change genders is their way of escaping that pain…. so they dont see that victim starring back at them in mirror.

  • Delboy359

    Talk about avoiding answering the question. Whatever she is now she was born a boy. Why can't she accept that. I have total respect for transgenders but it really frustrates me when they can't accept what they used to be.

  • Jack Aaron

    We're not 'assigned' a sex at birth. Our sex is identified by looking at our genitalia. It's observation and statement of fact, not some arbitrary process of categorisation. How we feel inside is irrelevant to our sex.

  • errol mcinnes

    Piers gets the opportunity to get it right when he interviews Eric and Corey. Let's see on Wednesday if he gets the message, or if he blows it again.

  • Sara L

    I am also a trans woman, I was never a boy or even a male, bjut i was born with male parts, I identify as 1000% female

  • Jasmine Houston-Burns

    It's amazing people have so thoroughly disassociated gender from reproduction. If you feel personally that you were born a genderless baby, fine, but that is not a functioning definition that corresponds with the nature of reality in general.

  • Dess D

    you were born a male child. you can't​ erase that. i don't care that you are a woman now good for you. But you can't expect people to erase it. get over yourself

  • diypictures

    When people would write that long quote of "I identify as an Apache helicopter etc, etc…." I thought it was tired, lame and overused but since basic logic and reason is taking a back seat nowadays, I'm starting to get the humor in it now..

  • Loyalty 77

    I'm confused and late hearing THIS… I can respect that she is living a life as a woman BUT she was born a boy… Americans are weird and confused.. she saying having a penis don't make you a male 🤔.. Rachel Dolezal can't act black without ppl hating her yet society accepts men being women… soon a person can say they wasn't born human and they are an animal and have sex with dogs cats horse etc… smh

  • Sherod Smallman

    He keeps saying that he's ignorant. He's simply saying why didn't you just say something on thee show instead of tweeting about me like I'm an enemy.?

  • Alec Phillips

    Except she was born a boy? You can say "oh stop mis-gendering me" but if you are born with a penis, you are a boy/male. Simple biology.

  • Marcel Magi

    Janet Mock has managed to make a career out of speech-policing everyone around her. She's the the authoritarian left-wing. It's shameful.

  • t0nyc0nde

    Janet Mock is a tiring, attention-crazed poseur. She faults Piers principally for saying that she was born a boy, and she insists to him that she was "not born a boy but a baby," yet a simple internet search would yield that the title of Janet's Marie Claire coming out piece was I WAS BORN A BOY. Piers, I thought, was respectful and helpful and quite evidently in favor of LGBTQ liberation. But no… that apparently is not enough for Janet Mock because he needed to use "perfect" language to describe her, no matter that the language he used was precisely her own. All she comes off as here is a narcissistic shitstirrer.

  • ozarkmtnlake

    Charles,    Society is not required to participate in your delusions and sexual fetish.     You don't know anything about being an authentic woman.      There isn't anything you can say or do to disguise your maleness . . . it's very present.      From your obvious male bone structure/features to the way you think, speak and express yourself        Being born a natural woman and living an authentic life as one, is far more than hair, clothes, synthetic hormones and whoring yourself out for surgeries.    Turning one's penis inside out doesn't make it a vagina.    Congratulations on your vile smelly open wound.

  • Dan Denton

    No Janet you weren't only born a baby but also a baby boy. You are sick person. You are tell God you don't want to be the sex HE made you.

  • New User

    I am so confused so saying I understanding your struggle is wrong. And who the fuck is assigning this gender?!! Listen not every trans has the same way of looking at things.

  • Bubba Shawn

    See this mess is too confusing! I respect anyone's chioce. But this philosophy is not based on truth. You can't erase your past. You can change your future. The end.

  • Jen Downs

    Jesusfuck, speaking about agency just clicked so much for me. DAMNIT JANET, you speak for the trauma survivors as well. So requesting your book from the library now.

  • Rhonda Sue

    Trans wants people to except who and what they really are but they can't admit or except who they really are. Your past does matter and NO man will ever identify or understand what it takes to be a real woman. Have periods, have babies, have cervical cancer, have your uterus removed because your body wants to grow cyst and you never had a chance to have a baby and be a mom, go through menopause that's a whole other level. So please as a real woman please respect us and don't say you identify with a woman….i think not. Be a woman but don't act like you understand what it takes to be one.

  • Tehuti Goddess

    I Agree with the interviewer!!!! BITCH YOU ARE A FUCKING MAN!!! YOU WILL CONTINUE TO BE A MAN UNTIL YA RETARDED ASS DIE!!!! FOH!!!!

  • africkso

    I'm so tired of seeing these tired ass conservative white men act like they're lgbt supporters and then sensationalizing lgbt stories for their own financial gain. This is not how you be an ally. You don't get to consider yourself an lgbt ally if you disrespect trans women like this, even with the way he was interrupting her every time she tried to talk. I have endless amounts of respect for Janet for being able to tolerate Piers and offering to have a conversation with him when he really doesn't deserve it.

  • My Crossdressing Life

    Funny because we all start off as female and have estrogen even males. Therefore there's a woman in all of us. Take notes all you ignorant wannabe tough guys. 🙂

  • Bright Star

    Yes she's a beautiful woman but she was born a boy. Why is she despising that statement. It's the truth that she can't ran away from even if she felt like a girl all her life, ever since she was six years old.

  • Jeannie Jones

    99.7% of Transgenderism is just a fascination. I believe in exceptions to the rules. I do believe that some people of whom claim to feel like they were born in the wrong body is true. Correction: some individuals have the brain chemistry of one sex,and possibly DNA of one sex, but is outwardly the wrong sex. The vast majority of people claiming to feel like they were born into the wrong body, needs help. God is the only way. In the end we all will stand before God in judgment. God makes it clear in his word that we are to seek his way if we are to inherit eternal life with him in heaven. God also gave all of us a free will;we can do his,or our own will. Doing our own will, will result in us spending all of eternity in hell fire forever. Suffering never ends in hell. The unGodly is punished forever in the lake of fire,and brimstone. God asks nothing more than our complete selves. We must deny ourselves for the cause of Christ. Heaven is where the righteous will spend all of eternity with God, Jesus Christ, loved ones,and saints of old in a land where there is endless day, love, peace, Joy,in a land where all of the beautiful places in this world will pale,in comparison with heaven. Yes, heaven will be a place of perfect beauty. Heaven is more precious than gold, better than all the richest in this present, and temporal world. I love every one. My prayer is that we will all surrender to the will of God,and spend all of eternity with him. Amen.

  • Jeannie Jones

    Janet,if God were to ask you to revert back to a physical male, and live that way for all of your life. If he were to show you that you are a man, and he has a wife and children for you, would you be willing to say to God:I don't understand why you are asking me to do this because it makes no sense. Would you say to God,I am willing to deny myself,and do what you have asked me to do,even though it hurts,I am willing to do your will. God does ask of us to do things that may not make sense to us, but in the end,we will discover that God knows what is best for us. We will find out that God's plan for our lives is perfect,and will result in everlasting joy, peace, fulfilment, contentment. There is nothing more important than a peace of mind;we can have that peace that only God can give. Without a God given peace of mind,we as humans try and find our own peace by doing things our way, which leads to ultimate misery,and can cost us our own soul to be lost forever in hell fire.

  • Jeannie Jones

    Every last one of us can live the way we choose, but remember that we can only be pleasing, and acceptable to God by doing his will. It's a hard pill to swallow, but If we are going to spend eternity with God,then we must submit to him in all things. None of us can live the way that we choose and expect to enter the Kingdom of Christ.

  • Zenmo

    Why is it that hard to admit you "were" a male? Isnt that the whole point of transitioning? You cannot deny the fact that there is a Y chromosome in your genome, and frankly, admitting it shouldn't be a big deal, and shouldn't at all affect the conversation.

  • Animateddreamer

    As a black person Mock should know "I don't see color" harms black people so why in the hell would you pull the "I was born a baby" nonsense? While this benefits transwomen who want access to women's spaces, women born female can't afford to not see sex but nice try though.

  • Tow Dow 3

    so he says he was born a baby not a boy….how asinine is that. he was born with a penis which means he's a male great Heru

  • JenniOrVictoria

    The fundamental cause of disagreement between the people who agree and disagree with Janet is the definition of gender; some believe it’s a choice and others believe it’s biological. THIS in itself is subjective, and for that reason there’s no right or wrong answer.

  • ssl0408

    Surgery won’t change the fact that you were born a male. It seems like he has a problem acknowledging that he was born a male.

  • scrappy pooh

    Victimhood is the key…them label anyone that doesn't think the lies the faux victims believe. Well let me say this, if you want to believe this Nonsense then go ahead..but don't force others to when they know what truth is..God doesn't lie, ppl do..and they even believe lies and lie to themselves. The truth is, this person is a man. He was born one and will die one and stand before God as one.

  • Nadia Ari

    Is very very very offensive to say we were born boys. Because we didn't. We born humans. We born woman with wrong genital. I m sick of people who are assholes

  • acidpi

    I respect the fact that she is now a woman, but she was born a boy. That’s a biological fact! There is misunderstanding here, on her part. Had she been born a girl she wouldn’t have had the need to transition, she wouldn’t be transgendered.

  • JoBeth Buckley

    Reading the comments where people cite “xy” as the definition of male, helps me understand why so many people struggle in college biology courses. Sex is primarily a hormonal distinction not a chromosomal one. Humanity tries to make sense of and/or categorize people by fabricating “one or the other” scenarios, but our biological identities are hella nuanced and most “one or the other” scenarios are actually spectral AF. Sex isn’t as “one or the other” as were taught it is in high school y’all.

    https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/sa-visual/visualizing-sex-as-a-spectrum/

  • Sariah Lace

    We’re all different,yet the same.But to be brutally honest,even though both genders,fall under the term of “human beings”.
    A mindset/surgery,cannot turn or make,you into something,you are not.

  • Chris The Barber

    Parents who indulges a child's stupidity will have there kids believing they can fly…jumping off of rooftops….

  • Nataly D

    The forehead, bone structure and voice are dead giveaways. I'm so sorry no one ever loved him enough to teach him natural law before it was too late. "Pride" is just defiance dressed up. When we all stand in front of the Lord, and we all will, there will not be the fig leaves of hair and makeup to cover who we really are.

  • Zoë Lkjsdhf

    Pier Morgan is a moronic bully. As a trans women myself I find his assumptions and questions very offensive.

  • Mona Liza

    This scares people off from interviewing and or interacting with them. You dont want to say the wrong thing when most of us grew up in the olden days, are ignorant as hell to other communities but open to learn.

  • gcmacyman

    Ok, so Janet. What did it take to create you? It took a biological MALE AND A FEMALE. So, as a result of that, you were born a BOY biologically. Right? So that's all you have to say. If you were born a baby, then what did you transition from to become "the woman you are?" Let's hear it because I really don;t get your stupid explanation. Just be honest, you were born a boy and you transitioned to a woman. Just say it and as long as to this day it takes Sperm and an Egg from a Man AND A Woman to create a new life that will be born biologically either Boy or Girl then your little platform is meaningless when it comes to the truth at the very beginning.

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